Sadly not. FBRef used to carry Statsbomb data which had pressures, but then they switched to Opta.
Salah's stats were interesting though. In his first Liverpool season, he averaged 6.4 final third pressures per 90 minutes. It then rose to 9.3 in 2018/19, 10.7 the season afterwards and then 10.0 in 2020/21. This means he was broadly at Firmino (10.8 in 2018/19) or Jota's level (10.6 in 2020/21).
But it went down to 8.3 the following season and was at 5.8 in 2022/23 when I last copied the data ;-) A dip was inevitable with age but I bet the number is really now. One area in which he perhaps wouldn't be an advantageous choice at centre-forward.
Thanks, Beez. While I can see numbers and basically understand their meaning, it is graphs, charts, and these radars which speak more clearly and indepthly to me. The Darwin one is staggering, Haaland the one trick pony; which we sort of knew anyway.
Gravenberch shows how he's had to settle and been utilised beyond the eye test.
Really great & interesting read as ever Andrew, so refreshing amongst the usual summer who are we signing click bait articles to have a what we imagine Arne is looking at in terms of what we have already & can we improve upon that before lashing money round. As JA says be interesting to see how this potentially impacts Darwin &/or just as interesting who then fills in on the right? Diaz, Szobo, Harvey or a new shiny so beloved by so many? Great stuff Andrew
Right after playing and back to the main question..
Mo was used at 9 a few times by klopp, often when he switched to a 4231 at the end of the 21/22 season.
Tbh.. I feel like he struggled in that role.. not when played through on goal, but in the back-to-centre back bits.
It’s somewhat different squaring up or backing into your average fullback when they have quite a bit of space either side, and backing into one of two centrebacks with a 6 dropping back
It would be a lovely solution if mo could turn into a clinical 9.. but I’m not so sure.
I am hoping that slots slightly different variation in build up play may help our forwards being more clinical.. with more of a cut-back based attack rather then our one of (really) drawing the back line forward and running into the space behind (false transitions?)
Here's some stats from Understat (https://understat.com/player/1250) which may interest you... the following numbers are for Salah for Liverpool in the Premier League, right-forward (193.4 per 90s) vs centre-forward (24.8). All stats are with penalties removed.
xG per 90: 0.56 vs 0.63
Goals vs xG: -8.22 vs +3.42
xG per shot: 0.148 vs 0.192
Shot conversion: 13.6% vs 23.4%
Expected assists per 90: 0.28 vs 0.25
While the sample sizes are obviously wildly different, the available data shows Salah is better shots-wise when playing centrally. His creativity is a little lower but not a massive drop.
Thank Andrew, enjoyed your writings which always give a little bit of new angle. Interesting and indeed a bit surprising stat re Salah then vs now. Though, I don't think he played a centre-forward against Betis. Arne actually said that he played with no strikers (but two wide players and two 10) given the players available in the tour.
If playing more centrally, would 10 better suits him than 9, given his smaller stature and slowering pace?
This sir is awesome.
I keep telling people the only area Nunez needs to improve is his finishing… rather large “only” though.
Love the twitter baiting… thanks for the add-on.
Cheers, mate!
Do you know anywhere for easy ppda/intensity stats for individual players.. I was having this argument.. 😂
Sadly not. FBRef used to carry Statsbomb data which had pressures, but then they switched to Opta.
Salah's stats were interesting though. In his first Liverpool season, he averaged 6.4 final third pressures per 90 minutes. It then rose to 9.3 in 2018/19, 10.7 the season afterwards and then 10.0 in 2020/21. This means he was broadly at Firmino (10.8 in 2018/19) or Jota's level (10.6 in 2020/21).
But it went down to 8.3 the following season and was at 5.8 in 2022/23 when I last copied the data ;-) A dip was inevitable with age but I bet the number is really now. One area in which he perhaps wouldn't be an advantageous choice at centre-forward.
always think you need the context of the rest of the team to see how they are pressing.. had the whole front five dropped off etc..
Tbh i was really interested in looking at the newer signings over the last couple of years.. but no worries, cheers!
Thanks, Beez. While I can see numbers and basically understand their meaning, it is graphs, charts, and these radars which speak more clearly and indepthly to me. The Darwin one is staggering, Haaland the one trick pony; which we sort of knew anyway.
Gravenberch shows how he's had to settle and been utilised beyond the eye test.
2 tricks from Haaland tbf
Goals scoring..
And stretching the opposition defence back, offering threat in behind, creating space, occupying the centrebacks..
Worth considering when you think about Kane at the euros..
Really great & interesting read as ever Andrew, so refreshing amongst the usual summer who are we signing click bait articles to have a what we imagine Arne is looking at in terms of what we have already & can we improve upon that before lashing money round. As JA says be interesting to see how this potentially impacts Darwin &/or just as interesting who then fills in on the right? Diaz, Szobo, Harvey or a new shiny so beloved by so many? Great stuff Andrew
Cheers!
Right after playing and back to the main question..
Mo was used at 9 a few times by klopp, often when he switched to a 4231 at the end of the 21/22 season.
Tbh.. I feel like he struggled in that role.. not when played through on goal, but in the back-to-centre back bits.
It’s somewhat different squaring up or backing into your average fullback when they have quite a bit of space either side, and backing into one of two centrebacks with a 6 dropping back
It would be a lovely solution if mo could turn into a clinical 9.. but I’m not so sure.
I am hoping that slots slightly different variation in build up play may help our forwards being more clinical.. with more of a cut-back based attack rather then our one of (really) drawing the back line forward and running into the space behind (false transitions?)
Interesting to see!
Here's some stats from Understat (https://understat.com/player/1250) which may interest you... the following numbers are for Salah for Liverpool in the Premier League, right-forward (193.4 per 90s) vs centre-forward (24.8). All stats are with penalties removed.
xG per 90: 0.56 vs 0.63
Goals vs xG: -8.22 vs +3.42
xG per shot: 0.148 vs 0.192
Shot conversion: 13.6% vs 23.4%
Expected assists per 90: 0.28 vs 0.25
While the sample sizes are obviously wildly different, the available data shows Salah is better shots-wise when playing centrally. His creativity is a little lower but not a massive drop.
Give it a try, Arne ;-)
Well… can’t argue with those stats.. 😂
Just a tiny bit of context missing 😉 I imagine only certain situations and game states in which Salah was played upfront…
Also, as your Nunez vs haaland analysis shows rather a lot of other areas to CF play.
That said.. we need to score a lot more goals and be more clinical and if that makes the difference 🤷♂️ why not!
So intrigued to see a new coach with the same squad of players.
God we created so many chances last year.. conceded a lot to.. just a little bit more control and little better finishing and we will be flying…
Thank Andrew, enjoyed your writings which always give a little bit of new angle. Interesting and indeed a bit surprising stat re Salah then vs now. Though, I don't think he played a centre-forward against Betis. Arne actually said that he played with no strikers (but two wide players and two 10) given the players available in the tour.
If playing more centrally, would 10 better suits him than 9, given his smaller stature and slowering pace?